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Post by davidindc on Jul 21, 2012 8:19:40 GMT -5
Not only are you a heretic, you're a juvenile heretic in a missile silo with a multiple-personality disorder.
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Post by Ed Fahrenholz on Jul 21, 2012 11:00:15 GMT -5
KJ, David, I am following the posts on the proboards and trying to make senseof where we stand as a group and how we proceed toward a conclusion of our work. I am waiting for a document from the style committee which I can take with me to a meeting with my senator and representative. Is this an unrealistic expectation? I am asking this question of you because you seem to be two of the most active delegates on the boards. If you can let me know of a different person that I can direct my questions to, please do. I don'twant to bark up the wrong tree, but I really want to know where we are and where we are heading. I agree with david on the need to let lawyers do what they do and " polish " our document into something that has a chance to be presented before SCOTUS. Ed Fahrenholz
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Post by davidindc on Jul 21, 2012 12:14:09 GMT -5
I have no clue. I'm not at all happy with the process for picking the Committee on Style, the lack of updates about its work, or the amount of time it's taking to do its work. And I'm suspicious about whether the delegates will get a genuine opportunity to opt-in or opt-out once the document is final.
I fear an email with a final document that says something like "opt out in the next 30 minutes or we'll assume you're on board." I hope I'm wrong, but my trust level for the dominant group running this process is at an all-time low.
Although the original plan called for the steering committee to fade away during the run-up to the election, and for all follow-up to be handled by the delegates and the people the delegates chose at the Congress, that obviously hasn't happened.
I'd think the people to ask are the current steering committee and the chairman of the board of the 99% Declaration Working Group, Ltd.
As best I can tell, the steering committee includes
Alex Easton Brown Robert Manning Julio Figuroa, and Farrell Parker.
There may be others.
Regina Carey was brought in by the steering committee to serve as parliamentarian. She seems to be taking on a continuing role.
I'm not sure if Dawn Hale has resigned in disgust or is hanging in there quietly trying to provide a dollop of sanity. Julio has played the role of sane steering committee member over a long period of time. I do not know if he is still doing so.
Mike Kelley seems to be in touch with the steering committee, utilizing diplomatic skills that I admire. My own capacity to display that sort of skill has long since escaped me in dealing with this beknighted group usurpers, scoundrals and out-numbered good-faith dreamers.
Mike Pollok owns the corporation. He has two other board members, last I heard, but I've never seen or heard them participate in much of anything. (Kevin Archambault participate early on, but in the last six months the three corporate officers --- the third of whom's name I cannot even recall.)
Good luck getting answers to what ought to be simple questions.
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Post by frankleespeaking on Jul 22, 2012 23:25:02 GMT -5
That reminds me of the time I had to defend Jonathan Krohn from Jon Stewart when Jon called him a conservative "firebrand." Remember CPAC 2008? I dissected the speech quite thoroughly, but the kid wasn't a firebrand, he was a child.
That is mostly what we're dealing with here.
And now one click of the mouse and the kid in the missile silo will have admin access to the forum. I've known him since he was 5 though, and he's more mature than some of our leadership, so I wouldn't really worry too much.
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