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Post by vconsults on Jun 22, 2012 10:57:53 GMT -5
Will an integrated Live Media Streaming and Voting/Polling service be fully implemented and available to delegates that will NOT be physically attending the 2-4 July CC2.0 convention? If a final and official SC decision has been rendered, what is the decision? If a final and official decision has not been rendered, when will the decision be made and when will the SC so advise the delegates? This matter is critically important and urgent.
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dawnh1
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Post by dawnh1 on Jun 24, 2012 18:43:07 GMT -5
Vconsults, we have talked to the PCC about wifi access and having an Internet connection but both are very costly and the money is not there. We also do not have a camera, etc. to provide the video for live streaming. We are in a dialog with the company that is providing the voting system to see if somehow people can access it to vote online but that looks doubtful. I am not going to be in Philadelphia so I would really like to be able to participate via the Internet but it doesn't look good at this time. If you know of anyone willing to donate about $4000.00 let me know because that would solve our problem.
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Post by vconsults on Jun 24, 2012 21:10:07 GMT -5
Thank you Dawn for the response. I know it's a daunting challenge for the SC to achieve important communication objectives if there are insufficient necessary resources (people, money, technology, etc.). Rough Tally of the RSVP: 1) All delegates contacted =787+~. 2) Number of delegates that actually received the "email blast" = unknown. . 2) Number of delegates that have confirmed attendance = 97= 12.3%. 3) Delegates that have RSVPed to say they weren't coming= say 10. 4) Delegates that have RSVPed to say they would like to come but don't have the money = say 8. Total Responses from the "email blast" = 115 +~. I was hopeful that a much larger number of delegates would have responded (above the 97); specifically, those that could not afford to attend. If there were .....say 100-200 delegates that are not attending because of travel costs, perhaps a significant number of such declining delegates would be willing to donate a $25-$50 to pay for the approximate $4,000 cost of the Live Media Streaming and Voting/Polling service. 99declaration.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=scquestions&thread=130&page=1#859Do you and Matt think that another RSVP "email blast" to the delegates would yield additional favorable responses if the email content is elaborated to include the lack of funds for Live Media Streaming and Voting/Polling service and requesting donation assistance? I recognize it's the 11th hour and sometimes people go beyond extraordinary difficulties if they are fully informed of opportunities and benefits that exceed the problem at hand.
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Post by vconsults on Jun 25, 2012 12:01:30 GMT -5
Dawn, a follow up comment and recommendation:
QUOTE: “Major expenses included payment of about $35,000 for the use of the PA Convention Center, $40,000 to Votenet Solutions to run the 6-1 election of delegates, about $30,000 for publicty and advertising on Current TV and MSNBC, miscellaneous expenses like $10,000 on voter and delegate outreach, equipment rental, stage and sound, private security for the event, ID badges, signage, and travel expenses for our invited speakers.” VALUE:
1. As to the $35,000 expenditure for the use of the PA Convention Center: • Planned: $35,000 / 787 delegates = $44.47 cost per delegate. • RSVP Projection: $35,000 / 97 delegates = $360.82 cost per delegate.
2. As to the $40,000 Votenet expenditure for running the delegate elections: • Planned: $40,000 / 787 delegates = $50.83 cost per delegate. • RSVP Projection: $40, 000 / 97 delegates = $412.37 cost per delegate. Planned ( 1 and 2 above): $95.30 per cost delegate. RSVP Projection ( 1 and 2 above): $773.19 per cost delegate.
QUOTE: “Since we started raising money in early November, we have raised approximately $150,000.”
3. As to the expected $150,000 expenditure for hosting the CC2.0, etc.: • Planned: $150,000 / 787 delegates = $190.60 cost per delegate. • RSVP Projection: $150,000 / 97 delegates = $1,546.39 cost per delegate.
I believe and recommed that the Board of Directors should call an emergency meeting immediately to deliberate financial options and yield an immediate solution for funding the critically needed Live Media Streaming and Voting/Polling equipment and services for delegates that cannot attend in person. I believe we have a duty to those non-attending delegates (690+-) to provide Live Media Streaming and Voting/Polling for their full electronic participation at the CC2.0. I believe we have a duty to the people who donated $150,000 to maximize the number of delegates that participate in the Petition for Redress of Grievances. I believe we have a duty to the constituents that voted for delegates and to the 99% to add value at the CC2.0 through full planned participation of the USA congressional districts. I believe we have a duty unto ourselves to ensure full electronic participation by non-attending delegates. We simply cannot ignore this original goal. Dawn, please submit this recommendation to the Board of Directors today.
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Post by mhuttman on Jun 25, 2012 12:30:29 GMT -5
How much money is left in the account? I assume that we can procure a decent camcorder & tripod for less than a couple of grand. If it will be good enough to at least get videos of the meetings onto YouTube then that will be a start, and I think we can rig up something on these boards to invite the delegates that can't attend to still participate (maybe not vote, but to provide timely feedback on the votes... We can read off the comments as they come in during the convention.)
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Post by mhuttman on Jun 25, 2012 12:41:21 GMT -5
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Post by vconsults on Jun 25, 2012 13:54:45 GMT -5
Thanks mhuttman. I am not privy to the 99D budget status and hence do not know the answers to your two questions (How much money is left in the account? Can we swing ~$300 to get video of this event?). Live Media Streaming and Voting/Polling like anything else requires money and we can't get any money if there is no 'executive level' commitment to brain storm feasible funding options. I'm not sure how many total convention many seats or total delegate attendees were estimated in the $35,000 contract cost for the convention center. But the total elected/invited delegates is 787 and if only 50-100 are truly attending, one might thing there should be an attempt to secure some dollar credit amount from the $35,000. Another option that could provide funding for the Live Media Streaming and Voting/Polling equipment and service. The time window appears to have collapsed.
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Post by dawnh1 on Jun 25, 2012 15:01:51 GMT -5
I am not very good with tech but I will try to make a copy of the cost of internet and wifi at the PCC. It will be this evening because I am almost late for an appointment now. Believe me, no one wants some kind of internet participation in this event than me. I just don't know how to come up with the money. Do any of the delegates have a camera they could bring to video the event? Would save buying one.
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Post by mhuttman on Jun 25, 2012 16:05:14 GMT -5
Someone tossed out the idea in another thread for each of us to pitch in $5 early on July 2 and just buy one for our use. If there is a mall close by the convention center then I can see a last-minute supplies purchase happening.
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Post by dawnh1 on Jun 25, 2012 21:25:34 GMT -5
RATES EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1, 2012 SHOW MANAGEMENT HIGH SPEED INTERNET PRICING GUIDE Show management internet and networking packages are customizable. Please contact Utility Services at utilities@paconvention.com or 215-418-4800 for additional information. TURBOLINK INTERNET SERVICE $4,200 „X This service provides 5 Mbps Ethernet connection speed within one designated area. FASTLINK INTERNET SERVICE $2,700 „X This service provides 3 Mbps Ethernet connection speed within one designated area. PUBLIC INTERNET SERVICE $1,365 „X This service provides 1.5 Mbps Ethernet connection speed within one designated area and is required for web hosting and VPN¡¦s. PREMIUM INTERNET SERVICE $1,140 „X This service provides 1.5 Mbps Ethernet connection speed within one designated area and will accommodate general internet functions (i.e. surfing the internet, viewing websites, and checking email). STANDARD INTERNET SERVICE $885 „X This service provides 784 Kbps Ethernet connection speed within one designated area and will accommodate general internet functions (i.e. surfing the internet, viewing websites, and checking email). DRY VLAN OR POINT-TO-POINT NETWORK CONNECTION $630 per drop „X This service provides a virtual network connecting two or more locations utilizing 1 Gbps CAT-6 network connection. DHCP is not included unless requested. Cost is inclusive of origination point and final destination point. Internet connection is not included. To include internet, please add one of the internet packages above. SWITCH RENTAL $100 „X 16 Port Gigabit Ethernet switch 10/100/1000 Mbps HIGHER BANDWIDTH OPTIONS 10Mbps: $7,500 15 Mbps: $9,750 20 Mbps: $12,000 25 Mbps: $13,750 30 Mbps: $15,000 35 Mbps: $16,625 IMPORTANT HIGH SPEED INTERNET SERVICE INFORMATION You will receive one drop in the location. You can bring additional hubs and/or switches or rent them from us. Your computers should have network interface cards that support at least 10BASE-T Ethernet. Your computers should be configured to support TCP/IP. The device we deliver to your location(s) will serve as a DHCP server, so you may use DHCP, static IP addressing or a combination of both. DHCP (dynamic host control protocol) is the recommended method. In most operating systems, such as the various versions of Microsoft Windows, you can configure your computer to use DHCP by selecting to "obtain an IP address automatically" from your TCP/IP control panel. If you choose DHCP, you need not enter the default gateway, DNS server addresses or subnet mask.
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Post by dawnh1 on Jun 25, 2012 21:27:25 GMT -5
The above is the cost of internet service at the PCC. I hope this gives you an idea of what we are up against. Any suggestions are welcome.
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Post by vconsults on Jun 26, 2012 9:36:48 GMT -5
Much appreciated Dawn. I am not an IT Professional but it appears that just having internet capability (i.e. surfing the internet, viewing websites, and checking email) will not provide for the much needed integrated "Live Media Streaming and Voting/Polling" function. The key is to have non-attending delegates 'see', hear, interact during the entire convention activities in a live mode and vote on the various line items that come up for a vote. In response to your 25 June 9:27 PM post, "Any suggestions are welcome", I have previously posted several suggestions on possible ways to fund the cost and several other delegates have also offered some options.
Per my 25 June 12:01pm post:
“We simply cannot ignore this original goal. Dawn, please submit this recommendation to the Board of Directors today.” I believe this matter should be elevated to the Board of Directors because of its’ national significance and urgency. Is the Board of Directors aware of this critical need? I am sure we all can agree it is a high priority if not priority No. 1.
Thanks Dawn.
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Post by indecankelly on Jun 26, 2012 20:57:53 GMT -5
Question, have we explored some open source, social media, or free options?
AnyMeeting.com has a free option for up to 200 attendees. We could have simultaneous meetings going, if we had more than 200 on one conference. AnyMeeting offers video functionality as well. We use it for free webinars, and it doesn't seem to have a time limit, though you could break it up into sessions.
Twebevent.com combines collaborative video streaming with twitter, if we wanted to have a special "twitter tag" for the event, where others could collaborate.
Other ideas? I like the idea of at least have some form of video recording happening, even if it's low tech.
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Post by dawnh1 on Jun 26, 2012 21:07:08 GMT -5
There simply isn't the money for Internet and the desire just isn't there by several of the SC. I tried to get it where people that weren't going to be there could have a proxy but that was rescinded tonight. So any Internet access will have to be provided by the delegates. If you all come up with something, please let me know and if the is an expense involved let me know and I will kick in what I can.
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Post by frankleespeaking on Jun 26, 2012 22:48:35 GMT -5
Motion for a vote of no confidence in the steering committee?
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